Hashimoto’s Antibodies Range

Were topics today relative to Hashimoto's because there's so much confusing stuff out there and I've been
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in the Hashimoto's business since like literally you've even heard of Hashimoto's probably before and when we
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started out when Hashimoto his people would come in and they would come in here with fibromyalgia chronic fatigue
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these types of things and then eventually would evaluate their thyroid and and tell them that they had
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Hashimoto's as part of their clinical picture now my doctor told me that my lab tests were normal
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mostly before I heard this by now why do I stopped thyroid symptoms when my lab tests are normal and and the biggest
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reason back then was there was twofold one nobody ran to anybody's to find out that the person had Hashimoto's and and
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and then once they once they ran them there's mass confusion on what the range is for these antibodies should be
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they're still semi mass confusion on it and so here's the here's here's the recent data so when we first started
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years ago we already talked about I think we already talked about the fact that to
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figure out whether you have Hashimoto's you've run these thyroid antibodies and the one that we're gonna talk about
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specifically because it's the one that comes up positive most of the time is the thyroid peroxidase antibodies TPO
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anybodies and when we first started running those antibodies years ago the range was zero to a hundred so if you
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had you had to have antibodies more than a hundred they'd have to be like a hundred and thirty 105 something like
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that for a doctor to say you have Hashimoto's the problem was that a lot of people
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between the range of nine and a hundred had Hashimoto's symptoms like all of them like 20 out of 20 symptoms they'd
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have and then they'd test 75 and they'd be told they're normal but we worked on this for a long time
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towards this goal and and the vast majority of doctors were realizing that people who had these 20 symptoms or are
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most of the symptoms 10 15 16 20 symptoms they were in the ranges of 10 and to say a hundred and being told that
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they didn't have any Hashimoto's over a period of time so so so the original functional medicine groups use the range
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of 0 to 9 we still use that range and now what you what's happening now is is that different labs are coming around to
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those ranges in fact I the Mayo Clinic now uses the range 0 to 9 for your for your thyroid antibodies if you have it
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over line then they start considering that you have Hashimoto's they say you have Hashimoto's
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we have a big Hospital here in in Reno renowned hospital that's kind of gobbling up all over you know and they
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use the range 0 to 9 this is like then years in the making except we have another hospital here at Saint Mary's
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and they use 0 to 30 – there are some labs that use 0 to 20 there are some doctors that will say well you're 12
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which is outside of the range of 0 to 9 meaning you would have Asha might as they go well we'll just wait and see if
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the antibodies get worse and something that I've never been asked a question on which is kind of interesting is is the
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ant about how how much did the anybody's even matter relative to how severe you are and the answer is they don't they
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just tell you that you have it so if the antibodies are 300 it's it doesn't it doesn't mean anything more than if
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they're 15 so those ranges and those numbers as you can see are quite confusing right now some doctors don't
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know what to do with them different labs use different numbers I've seen labs where the rain
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was zero to 16 I've seen labs where the range is 0 to 20 I've seen most of the labs I'm seeing half-hour 0 to 30 –
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still we've treated people from a lot of different countries so I think it's Belgium that I said the range is 0 to 5
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there was another country that was 0 to 4 so so it's confusing we use 0 to 9 our patients I have fill out an assessment
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form before we treat them and there's a there's two whole sections on Hashimoto's and Hashimoto's thyroid
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disease and if they're if they fill out 20 out of 20 symptoms of Hashimoto's Munir out of the range they're there
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they're in the range that says they're normal we're probably going to treat them for Hashimoto's because one other
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nuance of the range and you just asked about the range but but a nuance of this is you can be out of the range one day
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and be perfectly normal the next day so relative to ranges if you suspect you have Hashimoto's and you are tested
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normal but you somehow know you've gone on to dr. Google and found out that you have all the symptoms of it then you
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should run those antibodies a couple of weeks in a row they're not expensive to run and and then see if they come up if
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these antibodies come up positive for Hashimoto's more than zero – not more than nine antibodies once if they come
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up positive even once you have it even if it goes away because some days the antibodies are up some days you're in a
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good mood some days you're calm some days you're on vacation you know and you're anybody's go down other days
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you're normal and your antibodies are up and and so they'll measure so so that's a that's kind of an important subject
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and I wish I could give you more on it relative to what your experiences might be but the ultimate answer is the
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range that you should be looking at a zero to nine if you have any buddies that are over nine at any given time you
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should know that you have further thyroid peroxidase damage you should have know that you have Hashimoto's
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there's another one anti thyroid globulin antibodies they're lower I've seen him zero to one as range I've
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seen the range zero to three I've seen that all over the place that one hardly is ever comes up and it's interesting
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when it comes up it usually comes up really high so it's not really a question of whether it's one or three
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usually it comes up like 30 or 300 or something like that so that's thyroid antibody ranges and those those would be
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you you would be safe to use those ranges figure out whether you actually now have an immune attacking at your