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Hashimoto’s and Sodium Intake

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Topic is hi i'm dr rutherford for those of you who are watching me for the first time
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the topic is sodium intake with hashimoto's thyroiditis and i have a personal experience with this
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so this is kind of a so i'm happy to share this with you i'm kind of interested to share this with
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you so there was there's a study that came out a couple years ago and
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um they they had 49 healthy people who they put on a low salt diet then they put them on a high salt diet
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and then they followed that by a high salt diet with potassium supplementation
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so here's the deal 100 years ago who knows maybe 60 years ago or
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or more are potassium and and and and and sodium all right
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salt they balance each other and they and they work to balance each of your electrolytes and they're
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like hugely important to your physiology you have too much salt maybe your blood pressure goes up
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maybe you get bloated there's a lot of bad things about too much salt okay so
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they did a study and they found and then they measured blood chemistry relative to
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um white blood cells and they found that this one white blood cell called il17a it just means that this is a blood cell
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it's a white blood cell that goes up when a person gets inflammation okay it's an inflammatory white blood
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cell would go up significantly in the blood after you have high salt now let me go
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back i skipped over myself so like 60 to 100 years ago the ratio was sodium
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uh was like potassium eight sodium one uh and and this was probably before processed foods and restaurants got
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popular and all that type of stuff because now the ratio is 18 sodium to one potassium
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did you get that okay normal potassium before processed foods all restaurants salt all that type of
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stuff and everything potassium eight sodium one proper ratio um now it's salt 18 potassium
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one so that's bad it's particularly bad for hashimoto's patients what we found was that um
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when they expose these folks to potassium so people who so the people who took salt they had a
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they ended up taking a high salt meal and their sodium went up even more when they were exposed to
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seven days of supplementation with potassium the this il17a dropped dramatically like dramatically
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and um and so why is that important so when you in autoimmunity and in the subset of autoimmunity being
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hashimoto's autoimmunity this il17 stuff this is the part of the immune system that goes out of control and with
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inflammatory responses and attacks your thyroid and so we've talked about iodine
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and we talked about how how in people who are hypothyroid iodine actually is good for
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years everybody said you know everybody there's still people out there online who are iodine experts on
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on thyroid and i don't understand that because most thyroid today is is hashimoto's but um but but
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iodine for a hypothyroid is good it helps you to make thyroid hormone but for
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but for hashimoto's it is the poison it actually damages thyroid tissue okay and iodine is in
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most salt we put it in all of our salt to make sure that we get enough uh iodine and we don't get goiters in
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this country and stuff but what we do get is hashimoto's from it so um
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so we've talked about that and and and and and this salt is related to that because salt
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iodine salt iodine but even those of you who are like okay i use himalayan salt instead if you
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use himalayan salt to a even a moderate degree then you are raising this il17 remember
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they did this study first on people who do not have hashimoto's
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and and and they showed that the actual inflammatory response that will damage the thyroid
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is raised in those people who don't even have it so if the person has like a silent hashimoto's
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in other words you have the propensity maybe your mom's got it your aunt's got it your sister's got it
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the chances of you getting it is pretty high um so but you don't have it yet and now you
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now you eat a lot a lot of high salt meals and this salt can't exacerbate it and then actually
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set off a response again and all the sudden blows up hashimoto's and somebody who actually didn't have it but it
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perpetuates hashimoto's now personal story uh as those of you
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i'm thinking most of you watching have seen me before and know that i have hashimoto's
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and and so um and a lot of other things celiac autoimmune gastritis cerebellar
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antibodies so uh so i mean i so i've had a lot of this
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stuff and it was had a lot of symptoms was in pretty bad shape about 20 years ago
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and so so i doing all of the things that i share with you i you know got to be pretty good shape
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and uh and and and i you know it's funny i i was exposed to this material about a
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year and a half ago but it was at a seminar that had like 1300 pages worth of notes
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given to you before the seminar i probably took 40 pages worth of notes and i i just went by this i did i kind
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of i kind of didn't get it did i in fact when i looked back at the notes
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i had forgotten that it was even in that seminar but then i took a subsequent seminar on hashimoto specifically
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and it was emphasized much more in this seminar and i'm like you know what i kind of eat a lot of salt
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i kind of eat like once or twice a day i eat a salty meal i stan and oh and the other the other
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part of that is yeah i was in pretty good shape except i could never get my blood pressure down literally
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almost never get my blood pressure down between below 140 over 100. i exercised i slept i
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you know i i i got rid of all my food sensitivities just all the things we talked about
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but my blood pressure was up and the seven day thing struck me here in this particular study because i
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started taking a thousand milligrams of salt with every salty meal that i did and literally within five days my blood
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pressure went down to normal actually it went down to 118 over 78 which was like not even
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it was not even real to me and i felt so much better and i feel so much better and it was like maybe the last piece to
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my puzzle hopefully and uh so that it was pretty dramatic so i didn't have to like
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and really have to like question that data much more after that particular uh
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uh episode and with myself so i think this is important i i now share it with all my hashimoto's
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patients when uh when we start you know it's like anything else the hashimoto's has
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39 different triggers autoimmunity just has a whole group of different things that you have to evaluate i have a
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i have a 51-page check sheet put together by one of the top people in the world who does this type of work
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and i and i and now i've assimilated i use it and this is one of those 51 things so
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you might do it and go oh you know it didn't make that much of their do it anyway because you may have other
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things that are covering up the fact that it that this could be a big issue this
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isn't so so across the board for hashimoto's patients you know sodium intake should be like
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you know you need some salt right so sodium intake should be very controlled you
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should not be doing high salt you should not be you know you know doing high salt stuff
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every time you do it you should take a thousand milligrams of potassium and just heads up
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i'm not that i don't i don't know if anybody makes thousand milligram tabs of potassium um they usually make
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them only in like 200 milligram tabs that i'm aware of so i'm like taking five of these twice a day right
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fortunately they're cheap so so but i go through them i mean i go through them but i can tell you what
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it's better to take and i wasn't taking blood pressure medication i was kind of edging my bets that
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somehow it was going to go down someday with all the things that i was doing so uh so from that perspective it was
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really really really really cheap to you know do the potassium as opposed to as opposed to ultimately
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for me it manifested as high blood pressure for a lot of you it's going to manifest
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as i'm getting heart palpitations i'm getting anxiety for no reason at all my thyroid is swelling and it's going that
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it could be one of the several triggers that is causing that you know so may for you it may not
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be blood pressure for you it may be just it may be more the hyperthyroid symptoms
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uh just a low level of anxiety a low level of fear low level of tension and inability to
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sleep properly so but i but but my it's a standard recommendation across
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the board now for me to my patients and i'm getting pretty much positive feedback across the
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board on on uh changes that have been occurring and people are following those directions so
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i that's a big one to me so and and and i thought it would be a good one to share

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