Hashimoto’s and Epstein–Barr Virus

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Our virus the holy grail of hashimoto's uh or at least it used to be so i'm in reno nevada and um
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about 40 minutes from here there's this beautiful small village up in it's called
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incline village nevada and there is a doctor who discovered years ago
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that epstein-barr virus probably had something to do with chronic fatigue syndrome this is
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before anybody knew about epstein-barr virus and and so we had a lot of patients in common it
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was interesting to see his his thought was deal with the immune system kill the virus and so on and so
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forth i'm not saying his name because it didn't feel like it went very well very
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well but he was the first one to recognize that epstein-barr virus could
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have some sort of a an effect on this fatigue it turns out in the end if it does have
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an effect it probably has an effect because it can be one of the viruses that
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affects your thyroid and you'll notice i said one of the viruses that affects your diet now i'm
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getting a lot of questions on epstein-barr virus because and i don't remember the gentleman's name
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for a variety of reasons because i don't want to remember his name who just wrote a book i think was last year
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the medical intuitive i actually am not like adverse to medical intuitives i don't i don't know
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for sure but i've seen some pretty impressive stuff from them but this gentleman and author
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one day just had a flash out of nowhere that it was epstein-barr virus that was causing all
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hashimoto's so he basically wrote a book on it and he said and then pretty much his
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model was the model of the original doctor who started epstein-barr virus which is a doctor named dr dutis corazon
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who's still probably the world's most reputable expert on it and does research on it to this day and as a clinician
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and and so he kind of ripped off dr crossy and stuff and it made a lot of people think
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that it was all epstein-barr virus so that's the baseline of what i'm going to say
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okay because fc bar virus can be a trigger there are 39 known triggers
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of hashimoto's they are a ton of food sensitivities there are are some minerals
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believe it or not that people think they should be taking rashimotos that will actually
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make them worse um there are lots of lifestyle factors i mean anything goes without saying
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insomnia sedentary lifestyle smoking alcohol drugs um not sleeping properly unhealthy relationships are huge i'm
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sorry but if you're like in a battle with your with your significant other and your
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divorce or or you're going over you know child custody things i mean i've just seen that that goes to
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the next one of stress imbalance in blood sugars is another one okay
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so these are a lot of the 39 triggers everybody's a little different one could be
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for those one could be two of those there's chemicals the chemicals have gotten a lot of play
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over the years because the alternative medical profession what their their world is pathogens
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their world is come in here let's try to find out what it is let's take out your metals let's give you a
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shot let's do a let's do a chelation let's chelate your metals out of there
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let's let's take the pesticides and there's a certain amount of truth to that but
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um these metals and these chemicals may or may not even be a problem and there's still
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about 10 of them that are that are legitimately potential triggers for hashimoto's you throw those
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in with the probable 10 or 11 food groups that can be triggers for you you throw those in with
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all the lifestyle factors i just put in here and then you get the pathogens which i actually
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uh put near the end of how i would evaluate a hashimoto's patients and
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probably the number one pathogen by far that affects hashimoto's is not epstein-barr virus
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it can be one of them um probably h pylori is on the top of the list there's an
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there's a bunch of other ones if you you know if you get uh if you're drinking water out of a you
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know mountain stream or you're going to other countries and you're picking up different types of parasites
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candida candida can definitely be one hep c hepatitis c can definitely be one cytomegalovirus can be one herpes virus
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six particularly can be one parvo virus can be one a line definitely can be one and then
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epstein-barr virus is kind of in with that group and then there's a lot of confusion on
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the epstein-barr virus i had a patient yesterday i talked and said well i tested positive for epstein-barr viruses
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so what test did they say i don't know so there's now a panel for epstein-barr virus and it'll tell you
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it'll give you it's a it's four markers for epstein-barr virus and so they they test different aspects of the
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immune system's response to epstein-barr virus and there's a way from that panel to tell you if it's active or just been
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hanging around for a long time a lot of these pathogens are not i mean this is if you've ever seen our line
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stuff that we this is like the core of what we talk about online and a lot of these pathogens are thought
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to be cured sometimes but they're not cured they kind of like they kind of like
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they're smart they're smart let me use the example of antibacteria um resistance
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anti anti um um what sort i'm looking for like penicillin
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come on antibiotic thank you antibiotic resistant bacteria and and it's a problem i i i
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and and so the people are dying every day kids are dying because they took so many uh
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antibiotics for so many different things and then and then there's this virus which is a
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smart which are smart viruses or bacteria which are smart bacteria figured out how to get around the drug
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these viruses are kind of like that those of you who are lying patients i mean you you've got this all
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memorized everybody comes in here with lyme that is fully bought into the to the
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model and but a part of the truism of that is the virus does hide and so on so it
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turns out a lot of these do that and epstein-barr viruses like that so that can get so they can they can kind
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of hide until you become compromised and then they can kind of express
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themselves and the next thing you know if that's i mean if epstein-barr viruses is an issue then what i'm looking for is
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do you feel like you have absolutely do you feel like you have a viral infection do you feel like you have an active
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viral infection are you getting chills are you getting like feel like you got the flu and you get sweats you get
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swelling and your lymph nodes and all that type of stuff are you not if you're not there's a good chance that
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that the epstein-barr virus is not a player those of you have hashimoto's
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thyroiditis where you're tender and it gets swollen and then it goes and gets
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strongest then now in my world that steambar virus moves up the list on what being one of the
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possible or probable um triggers for that type of person and that type of person
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the the the patient or perspective patient i was talking to yesterday went and got i don't know if it was one
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shot or several shots of lysine for it no change she didn't have the type of symptoms that would make me think that a
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virus or a pathogen was was part of it and so uh so so again there's a lot more to
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this and and and in the defense of the of the it's all metals and it's all
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parasites and it's all epstein virus and it's all lyme groups all of these
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thought processes developed during a time when it was the wild wild west relative to
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fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue and these types of things because nobody knew what was going on
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so everybody was grasping and as commonly um done we those people started
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following the medical model oh it must be a bug that we're going to kill and then the person's going to get
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better well we're a couple of decades since understanding that that is not the case
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that these are multifactorial problems that there's vicious cycles all over the place
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the biggest the biggest thing you have to do to be successful in treating these types of cases is to be able to figure
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out the full the whole picture the degree that you can before you even start to execute
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anything on the patient and that's where epstein-barr viruses it's in there it's in there i've had
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patients where you know they came in i had they came from another doctor the other doctor did
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a really good job maybe the the epstein-barr virus wasn't checked we checked maybe they had a
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little center-ness flew we checked it the next thing you know
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uh we gave him some lysine we gave him some other things that'll dampen viral and
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there's like half a dozen things or more we gave him a couple of those things and i'm like ah
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it's a miracle like a couple of days later you know they were better because they had already taken care of the other
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things and that and they had the presentation of of uh absentee warfare and i think
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this is the weak spot in a lot of our education we've kind of issued we're trying to
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do exams anymore because we don't get paid for them people don't get paid for them
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and they take a long time and doctors need to take eight minutes to see you and all that
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but you kind of have to do an exam a little bit of an exam to go man it feels like you got a viral infection you can
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pick it up in the history but but it's kind of nice if you go and they go oh that's tender it's swollen was it
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swollen last week no it comes and goes and well now i'm going to look for maybe maybe a viral infection or one of these
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other pathogens so so that's kind of skinny on epstein-barr so for those of you who have
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who have bought that book and actually a lot of stuff in that book on a treatment is good because it came from
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somebody else who knew what they were talking about and um and but but it's not all
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epstein-barr virus and i i want you to like put that out of your head if you had a positive episode
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of our bias you don't have a lot of this stuff don't keep looking for the cure for
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epstein-barr virus start looking for what the other 38 triggers might be all right okay
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i think that covers it talk to you again next time i talk to you you