Hashimoto’s and Fibromyalgia

Jhin Hashimoto's I you know we've done a lot on this over the years and again there's a lot of this on our our on our
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power health talk comm site and you can look up Hashimoto's and and and you can look up fibromyalgia and you look up
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Hashimoto's in fibromyalgia but you know it's interesting because the question of the week so to speak and and and it's
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how it's it's kind of how it started it's kind of like how this whole thing started you're you're looking on Google
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you're looking on the internet and you're getting all this stuff it started back in the 90s with chronic fatigue
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immunodeficiency disease and and everybody who had that back in the 90s so it's considered a nut case you know
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like yeah you need to go see the psychologist and and so so started out with that with chronic pain with the
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alternative health care guys going no they're not crazy you know they they they I can feel it I could feel they're
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tender they're sick and and and so everybody's looking for the answer back then and people who were looking for
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like oh it's heavy metals sometimes oh it's all parasites that's another whole topic but sometimes and and and on and
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on and on there was all kinds of theories on it Epstein Barr virus we now know I've seen where virus is one of 39
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different triggers okay and so we went through that whole thing and it was a it was discovered at one point in time that
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by a couple of clinicians that all sudden they started realized that all of their vibrant that it worked in from
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chronic fatigue syndrome to fibromyalgia cos because a lot of the pain and then I morphed into calling it fibromyalgia and
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then sort of certain clinicians that started to realize that every fibromyalgia patients there was had some
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sort of abnormal thyroid problem they all had they were all in thyroid medication and that the thyroid
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medication wasn't really helping because their thyroid numbers were still all over the place further investigation
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into that was when it was discovered that these were not hypothyroid patients they all had
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Hashimoto's and so there was an original there was an original understanding of that there's a whole story to that and
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it was tough but in the end fast forward about 20 years now and what we now know is when you get Hashimoto's and who's
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the fibromyalgia patients primary education overweight fatigued tired and constipation pain everywhere
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some people have painted her torso some people have pain here it comes to go some people have bilateral carpal tunnel
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syndrome some people have no pain shooting down their arm and peripheral neuropathy they've gotten a checked
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everything's normal you know how could everything be normal and it turns out that so much of this is
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related to Hashimoto's like I said fast forward 20 years later and and we now know Hashimoto's is
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connected to well let's just start with the the brain got brain thing and the Hashimoto's got thing we know that
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Hashimoto's causes leaky got now we know that HA that breaks down the gut the next thing you know you got things
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getting out of the gut one of the things that can get out of the gut there are many things that can get out of the gap
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but one of the things I can get out again that's called a lipopolysaccharides it gets out it
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breaks down it's cell wall gets out it's called an endotoxin a toxin coming from your endo your in your intestines it can
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cause anything it can cause Hashimoto's in inhibition cycle it can cause inflammation it can cause joint pain it
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can cause autoimmunity in general it can turn on almost any other autoimmune thing that you have the Hashimoto's the
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the thyroid in and of itself can actually create inflammatory processes it can create a cascade of inflammatory
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processes it has a receptor sites in every single cell of your body so I'm just gonna run down for you I'm not
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gonna hit them all cuz there's so many I'm not gonna hit them all because I'm not gonna remember them all honestly
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it's gonna be like it's gonna be like Hashimoto's can hit your cerebellum Hashimoto's can talk to your cerebellum
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and the next thing you know you've got dizziness vertigo balance you can have migraines you can have blurred vision
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stiff neck that won't go away it can hit myelin antibodies particular to the into the cerebellum but myelin
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antibodies by the way or the antibodies that cause MS and they're starting to think that there might be a connection
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there it can create an inflammation in your brain it can decrease oxygen to your brain and so that can cause brain
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inflammation brain fog and I can't think and I'm depressed and so on and so forth depression is everybody comes in ears
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gosh and whether this is on some sort of hand side of the present it can cause anxiety when you get an attack on it
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cause I anxiety in cause panic attack this is your fibromyalgia patient is it not again and and so it kind of it
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causes leaky got it can stop you from fixing leaky got it has a relationship to your stomach and and and if you get
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Hashimoto's and and attack on your thyroid you can get another attack on your on the parietal cells or in your
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stomach those are cells that make the acid next thing you know you got GERD you got stomach problems you got gut
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problems what fibromyalgia patient comes in here doesn't have got problems of constipation that's thyroid that can be
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a number of other things it can cause that's all that's autoimmune gastritis it can cause autoimmune hepatitis it can
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slow down everything so that your so that your liver isn't really producing or processing fats correctly so so your
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lipids are up everything's up and then you're in here and they're giving you statin drugs because and and and the
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statin drugs are causing you to have muscle damage and pain and muscle pain what fiber I've had ton of fibromyalgia
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patients who's coming here that was part of their fibromyalgia thing so the bottom line is is fibromyalgia was it
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was a term that they coined then it was it was the term was incorrect but at the time they thought it was pain in the
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muscle fibers so that's what it means fibro Myo means muscle algin means pain but it's not that it's more neurological
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pain but yet it's nor logical pain caused by abnormalities and all of these systems and so there are a number of
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things that you'll see in in fibromyalgia but but we were just talking about it the gentleman here
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behind the Cabana camera before him and and when I had another colleague here and we were talking about how many
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you know came in with fibromyalgia had Hashimoto's and he said like 80% I can't remember any patient who has ever come
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in here with five mad you didn't have much tomatoes so somewhere between eighty and a hundred percent of people
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who have fibromyalgia have Hashima so it's a huge connection I mean yeah and and truly you know for the for your
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edification for those of you are watching this because a lot of people come in and they've been diagnosed with
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fibromyalgia you might pick be picking this up and what does that mean because because I I mean um today when I get
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people come in with a mystery disease what does that mean mystery disease means they've been to ten doctors
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they've been the neurologists they've been to chronologiste they've been to the GP they've had all their tests
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everything is normal the mystery disease first thing I'm doing it's looking for anybody so thyroid full disclosure you
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got a mystery disease I had one yesterday and it seemed like a pure neurological problem by the time we
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stripped down this history I'm like we're running antibodies on you because I think you have Hashimoto's and I don't
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look for it it's just like that's what shows up and here people show up in here with these chronic chronic chronic
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chronic conditions with with normal you know testing or now with testing that's not normal but they're still not getting
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better first thing I'm doing is running anybody so I'm see if they if they have Hashimoto's and if they come in here and
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they have all that stuff and they have Hashimoto's that's going to be kind of the core of my attack to start with
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because there could be multiple things with the chronic condition patients but but Hashimoto's and and and and chronic
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conditions in addition to fibromyalgia is it's it's it's crazy it's it is a is a big deal to look for it and yes if you
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have fibromyalgia you have Hashimoto's and if they told you you don't go find another doctor to check the antibodies
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and if they tell you normal go eat a big glob of pizza and then go take the antibodies I'm telling you the
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antibodies are gonna come up – you have Hashimoto's so that's my viewpoint on Hashimoto's from working with it now for
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god knows how many years so okay so that's it for today I hope you enjoy that any confidence on that which I
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suspect there might be I'm open to here all right take care you